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인코딩 없이 영상들 합치는 게 가능한가요?

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평소 합칠 땐 샤나에서 권고하는대로 프레임레이트, 해상도, 샘플레이트를 동일하게 설정 후 합쳐왔는데요,

 

알아보니까 mp4 tool의 joiner는 인코딩 없이 합치는게 가능하다는 글을 봤습니다

 

프레임레이트, 해상도, 샘플레이트가 달라도 인코딩 없이 합치는 게 가능한가요?

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    JKyle 2020.07.29 12:10

    합치기 모드 선택 ⇒ 대상 파일들을 목록에 불러오기 ⇒ 빠른 설정에서 비디오 코덱, 오디오 코덱 모두 '* 스트림 복사' 선택

    합치기 시 주의할 점은 https://shana.pe.kr/shanaencoder_tip/87979 참고

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    bobomama 2020.07.29 13:10
    이럴 수가;;; 샤나의 기능은 정말 생각지도 못할 수준으로 그 폭이 넓군요
    저녁되면 바로 해봐야겠네요
    친절한 답변 감사드립니다 ㅅㅅ
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    bobomama 2020.07.29 17:31

    안녕하세요. 말씀하신 대로 코덱/해상도/프레임 레이트/채널 수/샘플 레이트 동일하게 변환 후 해봤는데요, 합쳐지긴 했는데 결과물을 보니 비디오가 안 나오거나 오디오 싱크가 어긋나는 등 비디오와 오디오 둘 다 문제가 생겼습니다. 그 이유를 찾기 위해 파일 정보를 확인해봤는데, 제가 비디오레도로 잘라낸 것의 설정이 원인인 거 같아요

    제가 생략하고 말씀드린 게 있는데 자세히 설명드리자면, 제가 행한 작업 과정은 "(1)비디오레도로 영상들을 잘라내고(샤나로 잘라내면 프레임 그대로 칼컷이 안 돼서 비디오레도를 사용했습니다), (2)가장 용량 큰 파일의 코덱, 해상도 등을 기준 삼아 다른 파일들을 거기에 맞춰 퀄리티 27.5로 샤나에서 인코딩, (3)샤나의 합치기 모드에서 스트림 복사"라는 3단계를 행했습니다. 그런데 합치기 실패 후 파일 정보를 살펴보니, '비디오레도로 자른 영상'과, '비디오레도로 자른 후 샤나로 코덱, 해상도 등을 인코딩한 영상'의 세부정보가 다르더라고요.

    예를 들면, Video 항목의 Format profile의 경우 '비디오 레도로 자른 것 1~2'는 High@L4인데, '[SHANA]비디오 레도로 자른 것 2'은 Baseline@L4입니다. Video 항목의 Format settings의 경우 '비디오 레도로 자른 것 1~2'는 CABAC / 3 Ref Frames인데, '[SHANA]비디오 레도로 자른 것 2'은 3 Ref Frames로 'CABAC'이란 게 없습니다. Video 항목의 Encoding settings의 경우 '비디오 레도로 자른 것 1~2'엔 없는데, '[SHANA]비디오 레도로 자른 것 2'엔 존재하며 뭔가 주르륵 써있습니다.

    그래서 "'비디오 레도로 자른 것 1'을 다른 건 건드리지 않은 채 퀄리티 25.5로 인코딩해서 '[SHANA]비디오 레도로 자른 것 2'과 세부 항목이 같아진다면, 스트림 복사로 합치는 게 가능하지 않을까?" 싶어서 실행해봤더니, 이때는 성공했습니다. 이 결과에 의해 저는 "코덱, 해상도 등이 샤나 인터페이스에서 보여주는 수준이 아니라, 파일 정보에서 볼 수 있는 세부 항목까지 동일해야 스트림 복사가 가능하구나"하는 소결론을 내린 후, "그렇다면 굳이 둘 다 인코딩할 필요 없이, '비디오 레도로 자른 것 2'를 '비디오 레도로 자른 것 1'의 세부 항목까지 동일하게 인코딩 후 스트림 복사로 합치면 된다"는 대결론을 내렸고요.

    다만 문제는, 제가 Format profile, Format settings 등 세부 항목을 설정하는 법을 모른다는 겁니다.. ㅠㅠㅠ 부디 그 방법을 알려주시면 감사하겠습니다.

    아래 댓글들은 언급했던 파일 정보들입니다.

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    JKyle 2020.07.31 13:51

    https://shana.pe.kr/shanaencoder_tip/80578

    "질문하기 전에 검색하세요"

     

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    bobomama 2020.07.29 17:32
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    bobomama 2020.07.29 17:33
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    Color primaries : BT.709
    colour_primaries_Source : Stream
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    transfer_characteristics_Source : Stream
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709
    matrix_coefficients_Source : Stream
    Menus : 3
    Codec configuration box : avcC

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    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : Audio
    Kind of stream : Audio
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    Commercial name : AAC
    Format_AdditionalFeatures : LC
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
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    Duration : 5 min 11 s
    Duration : 00:05:11.148
    Duration : 00:05:11:28
    Duration : 00:05:11.148 (00:05:11:28)
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    Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
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    Compression mode : Lossy
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 4978276
    Stream size : 4.75 MiB (8%)
    Stream size : 5 MiB
    Stream size : 4.7 MiB
    Stream size : 4.75 MiB
    Stream size : 4.748 MiB
    Stream size : 4.75 MiB (8%)
    Proportion of this stream : 0.07969
    Default : Yes
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1
    Alternate group : 1
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    Count of stream of this kind : 2
    Kind of stream : Menu
    Kind of stream : Menu
    Stream identifier : 0
    Stream identifier : 1
    StreamOrder : 2
    ID : 3
    ID : 3
    Format : txet
    Format : txet
    Commercial name : txet
    Codec ID : txet
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    Duration : 5 min 11 s
    Duration : 00:05:11.160
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    Chapters_Pos_End : 95
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    MediaInfoLib - v19.09
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    bobomama 2020.07.29 17:33
    General
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    Writing application : ShanaEncoder

    Video
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    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
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    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.031
    Stream size : 60.3 MiB (92%)
    Writing library : x264 core 157 r2969 d4099dd
    Encoding settings : cabac=0 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=27.5 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Codec configuration box : avcC

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
    Duration : 5 min 11 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 4.75 MiB (7%)
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1



    자세한 정보

    General
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    Count of stream of this kind : 1
    Kind of stream : General
    Kind of stream : General
    Stream identifier : 0
    Count of video streams : 1
    Count of audio streams : 1
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    Video_Format_WithHint_List : AVC
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    Audio_Format_List : AAC LC
    Audio_Format_WithHint_List : AAC LC
    Audio codecs : AAC LC
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    Folder name : F:\인코딩 자료
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    File name : [SHANA]비디오 레도로 자른 것 2
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    Internet media type : video/mp4
    Codec ID : isom
    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    Codec ID/Url : http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html
    CodecID_Compatible : isom/iso2/avc1/mp41
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    File size : 65 MiB
    File size : 65 MiB
    File size : 65.3 MiB
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    Duration : 5 min 11 s
    Duration : 00:05:11.148
    Duration : 00:05:11:04
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    File last modification date : UTC 2020-07-29 05:32:26.000
    File last modification date (local) : 2020-07-29 14:32:26.000
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    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan type : Progressive
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    Stream size : 60 MiB
    Stream size : 60.3 MiB
    Stream size : 60.33 MiB
    Stream size : 60.3 MiB (92%)
    Proportion of this stream : 0.92319
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    Writing library : x264 core 157 r2969 d4099dd
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    Encoded_Library_Version : core 157 r2969 d4099dd
    Encoding settings : cabac=0 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=27.5 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
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    Count of stream of this kind : 1
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    Format_AdditionalFeatures : LC
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    Duration : 00:05:11.148
    Duration : 00:05:11:28
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    Compression mode : Lossy
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    Default : Yes
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    MediaInfoLib - v19.09
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    bobomama 2020.07.29 17:34
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